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This is something that I have noticed at school and online in general. Atheists and others always seem to go out of their way to aggressively attack a peaceful religion's ways of life and history. And this can be because of one of two things: either atheists are threatened by Christians for some reason, or they hate our religion. Just wanted to put this out there....why the attacks? Are you trying to prove something? Do you really want to bring down a religion that promotes peace and friendship? What do atheists and people in general have to gain by attacking Christianity?

(Not directed to anyone specifically, just saw the increase in Christian/atheist debates and thought I'd get everyone's opinion on this. Have you noticed this, not just here but in daily life as well?)

I have noticed this too... I mean if you believe in something that is so good and only brings good, why try to tear that apart?

While I have no doubt there are people who are jerks just to be jerks, not everyone who attacks (or debates) Christian beliefs are threatened by them. Just like Christians attack non-Christian beliefs (homosexuality, R-rated movies, pre-marital sex, etc...), those who have non-Christian beliefs have the same drive to "attack" those who counter their beliefs.

There are aggressive people on both side of the fence. We have a group that regularly comes on campus with signs saying that homosexuals and people who like Anime are going to hell. They literally get in your face and tell you you are going to hell for anything they can think of. If they see a man and woman holding hands as they walk by, they call the girl a slut. They do this to anger people. Then, they record the angry college students and show the tapes to other religious groups and say, "Look at these sinful college kids...they need help, and in order for us to help them, we need your donations."

Just like Christians attack non-Christian beliefs (homosexuality, R-rated movies, pre-marital sex, etc...), those who have non-Christian beliefs have the same drive to "attack" those who counter their beliefs.

Totally different there. Christians are attacking what isn't good. So you're saying that homosexuality, pre-marital sex, and abortion are good?
Atheists attack the Bible, when it teaches some of the wisest lessons in the world. They attack many other good spiritual things as well. Your basically saying that Atheists don't believe being wise is good? So they attack being wise.

Hmm...sounds like you have a good point there. I'm interested to see how Christian belief attacks can be explained away as acceptable behavior!

I haven't seen anyone attacking anyone on here. I've seen some very hard questions and shameless blanket statements but no attacks. There are of course people I've seen attack me for my religion but they are stupid atheists with long beards who sit in their trailers and get mad at God and everyone in general.

Of course there are things they do that I don't agree with but as long as they don't claim that they're Christians I'm good with it. If you want to be a Christian I think you should follow Christ and set a good example. If not, that's your choice.

noeylani94 wrote:

Just like Christians attack non-Christian beliefs (homosexuality, R-rated movies, pre-marital sex, etc...), those who have non-Christian beliefs have the same drive to "attack" those who counter their beliefs.

Totally different there. Christians are attacking what isn't good. So you're saying that homosexuality, pre-marital sex, and abortion are good?

Homosexuality: Yes.
Pre-marital sex: As long as people are doing it according to their own scruples and being safe, yes. It isn't our business to tell people what they can and can't do.
Abortion: In cases of rape and medical cases, yes. In the case of, "I didn't feel like wearing a condom and a baby would be a big inconvenience", no.

Christians attack what they fear. Just like almost everyone does.

Atheists attack the Bible, when it teaches some of the wisest lessons in the world. They attack many other good spiritual things as well. Your basically saying that Atheists don't believe being wise is good? So they attack being wise.

What wise lessons do atheists attack? Nobody attacks being wise. They may attack the manner in which wisdom is gained or passed on, or if that "wisdom" counters lessons they abide by.

Pre-marital sex: As long as people are doing it according to their own scruples and being safe, yes. It isn't our business to tell people what they can and can't do.

So we shouldn't tell people that they can't steal or kill? And you can't use the "having sex doesn't hurt anyone, there's no victims" argument here. Over the past 50 years with "safe sex" being promoted, STDs and AIDS have grown extremely, causing significant increases in death rates and infections.

Neighborhood Studios wrote:

Pre-marital sex: As long as people are doing it according to their own scruples and being safe, yes. It isn't our business to tell people what they can and can't do.

So we shouldn't tell people that they can't steal or kill? And you can't use the "having sex doesn't hurt anyone, there's no victims" argument here. Over the past 50 years with "safe sex" being promoted, STDs and AIDS have grown extremely, causing significant increases in death rates and infections.

Yes, yes we can use that argument.
By having unprotected sex, you make the decision to risk disease. You make that decision when you eat poorly, smoke, do drugs, etc... If you get a disease, you risk the next person you have sex with, but they also have responsibility in that since they chose to have unprotected sex.

There is no such thing as "fully protective sex."

And what if the person with disease doesn't share that information? I think that we have a right to keep people from harming others? Right? But we don't have a right to keep them from passively harming themselves.

Neighborhood Studios wrote:And what if the person with disease doesn't share that information? I think that we have a right to keep people from harming others? Right? But we don't have a right to keep them from passively harming themselves.

That's my point. The person who indulges in sex with a diseased person makes the choice to have unprotected sex. Both are consenting.

And what if the diseased person doesn't know or lies? You could then make the case that the other person was non-consenting. And by allowing things like this to continue we are supporting the rapid growth of disease and death caused by STDs. If you aren't part of the solution then you are a part of the problem.

Therefore by promoting pre-marital sex, "safe" or otherwise, you promote the spread of disease.

how about we just listen to what god wants and not have sex at all until your married....
i mean that solves that problem pretty much.

Neighborhood Studios wrote:And what if the diseased person doesn't know or lies? You could then make the case that the other person was non-consenting. And by allowing things like this to continue we are supporting the rapid growth of disease and death caused by STDs. If you aren't part of the solution then you are a part of the problem.

Therefore by promoting pre-marital sex, "safe" or otherwise, you promote the spread of disease.

It doesn't matter if the diseased person doesn't disclose. It is the responsibility of everyone to have protected sex, and if they don't, to ensure that they protect themselves by getting their partner tested.