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oh snap

I asked you first... Plus, I don't think you really care. You're just running us around in circles to see us go and asking questions you already know the answer to. I don't know if you've read to book or if your a natural but your passion for reason doesn't seem as strong as your hate for religion.

P.S. I don't need to stall for time. I know the answers to all your questions because I was the one asking them once.

but seriously now. your little question about if all the people before christianity are in hell. (irrelevant?)
well jesus saved us after he died on the cross and opened heaven then for all the dead.

I know the answer, but I want to hear what you think. Are all the people who came before the one true faith in hell? And this is a serious question that I would like an answer to in the next post.
thanx

i dont think that is something that as a human we can decide or answer. we may have theories that "you must be christian to go to heaven" or blah blah whatever but in the end whether you go to hell or heaven is up to god.
some religions believes that you must accept jesus as your savior to go to heaven but im not so sure. i mean what if you just never had to chance to know god...like if you werent educated enough or brought up in an unfortunate part of the world...
then there is the whole pergatory (spelling?) concept...which is a whole other debate...

well if theres purgatory for those who dont know of god, then why are there missionaries? To give them a chance to go to hell? I would rather go to purgatory then have a chance of eternal damnation.

....no comprende the question
what are u asking?

Why does your religion have missionaries? By telling people with no knowledge about christianity knowledge about christianity, you are only giving them a chance to go to hell. You are giving them a chance to go to heaven too, but purgatory, according to the christian faith isnt that bad.

God had prophets in all parts of the world before Jesus came. Most of them were in the middle east and with the Jews but there were some elsewhere. Those who listened were saved and those who didn't well, IDK. Jesus now allows people all over the world to experience him through the holy spirit. What happens to people who don't know about him? I've heard of people who have no clue who God is suddenly having an experience with him. I believe everyone either hears about God or has such an experience at least once in their lifetime. I personally had an experience and knew who God was so I guess you can have both. That's about it.

And why does god need people to tell people who have never heard about god about god? I mean, wouldn't he be more convincing?

I once though so myself.

I mean, people who are Muslim or Jewish are going to hell according to your religion, so why doesn't god give them a hint? I mean he created them knowing fully that they would chose to be blasphemous.

It kinda sucks once you think about it


or maybe hes just not there. Which makes more sense?

The first one.

Wait. It makes more sense that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everybody every minute of every day who tells us to pray for something that will either happen or not happen regardless of what we do, and he will send us to eternal damnation if we sin which he created and he has given us no proof of his existence, though he loves us. Not to mention he knows who is going to hell before he makes them, yet he makes them anyway. And he is all loving. Plus the book that his people read and follow encourage death, destruction, stoning children, killing gays, killing those of other religions, and slavery. But of course, he still loves us.

OR

There is a story which people invented to explain unexplainable phenomenons but now that we can explain them, we dont need it anymore, but the people are so attached to this story because it gives them comfort and they grew up with it and are brainwashed to blindly follow it based on faith.

First off, I've gotta do a little moderating here. Sam, your questions are all great and relevant, and that's cool. But twice posting about people stalling for time is only making a fire. It's a forum. No rush to answer the post. We've all got to get our facts straight and proof prepared and thoughts gathered before giving a good answer.

Now,

In a past post, I answered your jibe about people who aren't Christian going to hell. I don't think that's true. I think that you're using ideas based off of extremist beliefs, which aren't mainstream anymore. I'll repeat what I wrote, which is that Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are all basically the same. Same God. No issues with Islams automatically condemned, same for Jews and Christians. Next off, I believe that if you've got a religion that allows you to love one another, and promotes peace, then chances are in the end things will go your way after death. And if by chance there's nothing after that, then what'd you lose? Nadda.

Plus the book that his people read and follow encourage death, destruction, stoning children, killing gays, killing those of other religions, and slavery. But of course, he still loves us.

I think that you're in love with following the literalism that extremists follow. Therefore, you'd make the argument that extremist Muslims are right to attack the free world. Is that what you're saying? Because they say that it is supported by their scripture.